email correspondence

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Hi zoran
.... I have managed to compile the code that you last sent, but for some reason I can't make it work. All I get when I run it, is a line of text saying "loaded 34 files". Then nothing happens.
I have tried running the pascal code at the same time, this doesn't seem to make any diffference.
There must be something i have forgotten (already) about how it works. Any advice and hints would be much appreciated.
is everything else well?
cheers Rainer

Hi there,
The problems you are experiencing with the software is due to the fact that the pascal programm is made for the network operation, and you are trying to run it on a single computer.
You need two things to make it work: a data file with information about the current sound, its position, its volume, etc. and another file that synchronizes the playing. You probably just need to change the drive and path in the pascal source and recompile it, but I can't tell you exactly where because I haven't copied the original source and I don't have it. I have rewritten a previous version that has been on my computer and used it for testing. I can send it to you by the end of the week.
As for the french text, that's from Gordana's friend in Paris who organized and hosted the web event. I just read the beginning, but I'll go thru it as soon as I spare some time.
Regards
z

Hi Zoran
I still haven't had a chance to look at the infonoise code you sent, I could not do anything with it anyway as its too complex, so I have been learning a little about javasound and writing some small programs of my own etc. I attach a small program that checks for mixers in the system.
By the way did you ever keep a copy of the infonoise sound files? They were called i_noise001.wav up to i_noise042.wav from memory.
I have been writing to gordana about documenting infonoise in more detail and for an article which I think we can get published. I hope you will be able to write something, I feel its important to keep up momentum and hopefully organise some more possibilities for future presentations. hope you are well.
cheers Rainer

Hi Rainer,
I don't have the original sounds for Infonoise, because we only had them on the Rex computers, while my machine was using some Windows sounds for testing. I only have a couple of samples you sent me long ago, the ones I used to make the small .AU files for the applet. I think there was ten or so samples, and I have them somewhere. But the i-noiseXX.wav files were left only on your laptop, after they were erased from the Rex computers. I wrote to Gordana to tell her I know what I will write about for the documentation, but I will wait for her to come to Belgrade (in less than two weeks) to see if that's what she expects. I already have written a couple of paragraphs, but it's far from being completed.
I have received the french text A. wrote (http://www.artmag.com/techno/noise.html), and I had a couple of remarks but didn't send these remarks neither to Gordana nor to A. It mostly concerns the words she uses for the projection (film), and I think she mixes the web event and the installation. I was thinking of sending to Goradana these remarks so she can talk about it to A, but finally I decided not to. It wasn't that important. Gordana sent the videos to several destinations, I know that ICC has on the list when she left Belgrade, but I don't know if she did send it. However, if the article gets published, we could send the material we have to people that might be interested. That would be good timing.
All the best
Zoran

hi Gordana
is there a chance you can send a copy of the tape to Kassel? If you have a spare one that is (I don't). Since we have the tape, it is worth sending.
I have been thinking that we now have a few possibilities for smaller scale installations etc, that might be suitable for this type of situation.
- they could screen the videos as part of their program (2 videos).
- the live presentation with video as isea
- the video installation as was intended for Plovdiv
- expanded installation using zoran's animations playing live from computer monitors (various animations & videos including the internet applets etc)
- expanded installation with 12 channel sound system etc.
- 6 projectors?
these range from easy to more difficult, depending on the resources and interest of the organisers I guess. In this case I think they would certainly program the videos, bu t might be interested in a performance etc...
If you have a spare video I will get the application form and fix that part of it.
cheers Rainer

Hi Rainer,
I am sending you the text I have written so far, hoping to get some suggestions from both you and Gordana. She'll be here next week, and I hope to finalize the text while she is in Belgrade. It would be very nice to test the sound software at your place, I will do my best to provide you with a pascal program to control movement of a sound clip between 4 loudspeakers - something like the outer loop of the infonoise installation. Minor modifications will have to be done, and I think I can do it soon. I promise.
Best regards
Z

hi Rainer,
yes, i do have the tape. and i agree, it is good to try to present the work in as many forms and places. i think it is it's great quality (came from the impossibility to make it as we wish, but maybe not. i am not sure any more).
anyway, i will post the tape. will you email me the form to print, or..? these days i am a bit short with time (and concentration). preparing for the travel - so many things to do before...sorry..but will do my best. i am still thinking somehow of making the form, or: about the way to form the text about the installation. again of maybe puting it into a form of conversation, somehow? what do you say?
cheers, gordana

Hi gordana
thanks for agreeing to send the tape. I am still having all sorts of problems organising to make quality copies here...
I have attached the pdf application form for you, you must print it out and include with the tape. But in the next few I will send answers to all the questions... So for the moment just print out and read; I will do the rest.
soon
cheers Rainer

looks interesting, yes. and of course, you never know. have to try. anyway, we can end up with the book about the history of the work instead of work by itself, (why not ;) won't be the first of the sort.
do you need some texts from me? or anything else (i am so happy that i have not to do anything, thanks!!) but this will be nothing, do tell me if so.
i am travelling on 13th.
cheers, gordana

Hi again,
I made the sketch of the installation as I remember it, it could be helpful for reference in our communication and used as a basis for a nice drawing for the article or whatever.

Hi Zoran
good to hear... thanks also for the Systeminfo printout, its pretty much the same as mine, right down to the controls that are available. I am beginning to think this program only reports java resources installed, rather than absolute system resources. If we had run it on the installation computers it would probably have reported the same, what do you think?
In my experiments I have implemented a fader panel now, which alters the pitch of samples being played. Finally some tangible results from months of reading. I must say that your javasound printout has been a great help - the instructions in this document are so obscure that I would be blind by now from reading and rereading it on the screen.
meanwhile back to the article, I still say there is such a thing as too much detail.
On the "crossing point" again, when we spoke about it at rex I remember we discussed the sound moving from one speaker to any adjacent speaker, ie that the corners were basically crossing points, there being 3 adjacent spkrs.. Has this changed? I guess we will discover more misunderstandings when I finish my section of the text, hopefully sooner rather than later. give my regards to gordana when she arrives. best wishes
Rainer

Hi zoran
sorry to be late replying. I've looked at your diagram and it seems ok to me. (anyway, you are in belgrade and can take your tape-measure if you need to check!)
As for th PIRs, yes there was some change in the positioning. They were grouped into sets of three with two pointing outwards and one inwards. The outward pointing ones were fanned out to capture the motion of someone who may be walking around the strip, ie they were distributed as evenly as was possible under the circumstances.
The inner pointing ones were aligned skew to the edges of the moebius, so that people in the centre of the strip would not trigger the pirs, but but people standing near the edges would (here is where a picture tells a thousand words).
I think too that the crossing point refers only to the whispering sounds that were to emulate the movement of the snake. I remember that the other sounds could move between any adjacent speakers, and I understand that the speakers were interleaved so that this could happen without actual panning control. an innovative arrangement of speakers that makes the system possible...
cheers Rainer